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« Odpowiedź #60 dnia: 06 Październik, 2017, 17:25:27 »
W następnym odcinku czeka nas pożegnanie z jedną z głównych postaci...
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Q&A - 3.14 - El Matadero
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1. How does the episode begin? The episode opens with the group on their way to the dam. The camera zooms in on Ofelia riding on the back of the truck and her opening and shutting her eyes, like she is about to doze off.

2. Why Crazy Dog is screaming because of the truck? Because Ofelia falls off the back of the truck. When they stop and she gets up, a walker bite is visible on her shoulder.

3. Where does Alicia go? Does she arrive where Jake told her? No, she doesn't arrive where Jake told her (yet). Instead, she stops along the way at a small town looking for food and supplies.

4. Who is the girl she meets? What is her story? We don't know the girl's name yet, but she's played by Edwina Findley. She's a girl who's very much like Alicia and who decides it's better not to make friends and to travel alone.

5. What happens with Nick and Troy in their way to meet Alicia? The bromance is going strong! They just talk about the ranch, and Troy asks Nick why he decided to stay when he could have easily left. Nick says a bunch of stuff like Luciana was sick, he had to be there for Alicia, blah, blah, blah. Then, Troy says he thinks Nick stayed because he loved him.

6. Do Madison, Walker, Ofelia and Crazy Dog meet with Daniel? What happens? No, only Madison does. After Ofelia is bitten, she makes Madison promise that she will take her to meet her father so that she can say good-bye.

7. Is there any confrontation? Yes. When Daniel finally arrives at the trading post (he comes alone), Ofelia is already dead, and he is so consumed with grief that he threatens to kill Madison if she doesn't leave immediately.

8. Anyone dies? If so, who? Ofelia.

9. How does the episode end? It ends with Daniel finally making amends with Madison and offering to take Madison and the group back to the dam. Nick and Troy stay behind, with Nick claiming that he "can make some deals" there for additional provisions for the dam.

Also, Daniel is the one who puts Ofelia down by shooting her in the head. Strand is captured once again by Proctor, and in response, Strand says he has something big to offer him, something bigger than he has ever seen. We don't know what Strand meant by that.

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« Odpowiedź #61 dnia: 06 Październik, 2017, 18:25:18 »
Śmierć Ofelii uważam za największa porażkę Ericksona. Naprawdę. Przez X odcinków budowali wątek "gdzie jest Ofelia" po to tylko by na chwilę podreperować jej sensowność fabularną i później ją ubić. Nie za bardzo rozumiem co kierowało ekipą Fear w tym względzie. Wychodzi na to, że to postać która nigdy nie miała wyraźnego celu i jedynie co robiła to ładnie się prezentowała. Taka Beth tylko zagrana przez ładniejszą i zdecydowanie bardziej utalentowaną aktorkę- Mercedes Mason

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« Odpowiedź #62 dnia: 13 Październik, 2017, 15:16:47 »
Zapowiada się niezwykle dynamiczny finał sezonu...
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Q&A - 3.15 - Things Bad Begun
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1- How does the episode begin? The episode begins with Nick collecting walker heads so that he can sell them to the guy at El Matadero for their locus ceruleus. But, he's interrupted by Troy who has figured out that the Proctors are planning on attacking the dam.

2- Does Strand betray the group? Yes. He made a deal with Proctor John to facilitate a takeover of the dam. However, Strand did make sure the deal would include protection for Madison, Nick, and also Alicia, if she showed up.

3- What is the conversation Daniel has with Nick? He seems angry! Yes, Daniel is grieving and becomes quite fixated on finding out what happened with the horde. He rightfully believes that the horde didn't just appear out of thin air, because every herd has a "shepard." That is, someone led it there, and he interrogates Nick to find out who. Daniel finally gets it narrowed down to either Troy or Jake, and somehow (perhaps because Nick is good at lying to people??) Nick convinces Daniel it was Jake.

4- Who/what is proctor and what he/it wants? Proctor John is the leader/founder of a group that he simply calls "The Proctors." John is from Santa Barbara, and the Proctors originally was just a humble group in southern California. However, he made plans for expansion and for the creation of a series of interconnected outposts from the Gulf Coast of Texas to San Diego. In other words, their mission is to create a massive trade route, with the added detail that they take their locations by force which includes killing people.

5- What are the rules in the dam? What does Lola want? N/A, we don't see that since they are quickly alerted by Nick and Troy that the Proctors are planning an attack on the dam.

6. Does Daniel have a plan? Daniel's plan for the defense of the dam against the Proctors is to first try and hold them back. But, if they can't, then plan B is to use the C4 left over from when the dam was built and blow the dam up. That's because he knows that if the Proctors gain control of the dam, they start forcing people to pay tribute for water just like Dante, and the explosion will release all of the water to the people. So, at least they'll have a fighting chance of not dying of thirst.

7- Is there any fight or confrontation? There's a huge fight between Strand and Daniel and Lola. According to the orders of Proctor John, Strand is supposed to kill Daniel and Lola, but in the end, Strand can't do it. However, Daniel does try to disarm Strand, and in the process, the gun goes off and shoots Daniel in the face. The bullet enters right under Daniel's chin and then, exiting through his cheek. After the Proctors arrive, Strand lies and says they're both dead. Also, Alicia and Diana are attacked in an attempt to steal their supplies, and while they are able to fight them off, Diane's leg is broken in the process. So, Alicia heads back to the Trading Post in search of a doctor.

8- Is there any important decision a character makes? After it becomes known that the Proctors are coming for the dam, Walker and Crazy Horse decide to leave. Walker appreciates Daniel's generosity, but he's not willing to die there for the dam. So, they decide to head North where supposedly some of his people went after the infection began.

9- Does anyone die? If so, who and how? Madison finds out that Troy led the horde to the ranch and when Troy goes off on a rant that he was right because the native americans were there and they didn't belong, Madison bashes his head in with a hammer. Efrain is shot to death by the Proctors when they begin to invade the dam at the end of the episode.

10- How does the episode end? The episode ends with the Proctors invading the dam, and Strand making a desperate attempt to save Madison and Nick. He knows Proctor John won't be happy because this was supposed to be a surprise attack, and so, he locks Madison and Nick in a room, hoping they won't find them.

BONUS: About the Proctors, Efrain knew who they were and said they were affiliated with the Narcos before the infection began. Really bad group of people and absolutely no regard for human life. They ride motorcycles and have black leather jackets.

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« Odpowiedź #63 dnia: 13 Październik, 2017, 16:08:16 »
Cholera jasna no czemu Troy... W pewnym sensie spodziewalem się, że żaden z braci nie przetrwa do końca S3, ale miałem nadzieje że Troy jednak da radę.


Czyli pewnie w 3x16 Strand może niestety zginąć, ale mam nadzieje że tak się stanie ;-;

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« Odpowiedź #64 dnia: 13 Październik, 2017, 17:10:35 »
Zakończenie wątku Troya satysfakcjonujące, szczególnie z perspektywy rozwoju Madison. Ta dała mu szanse, mógł odejść, zacząć gdzieś od nowa lub zwyczajnie się zabić. Zamiast tego wolał rozwalić miejsce, o które Maddie za wszelka cenę walczyła i które chciała utrzymać. Dodatkowo, doprowadził pośrednio do śmierci Ofelii i wszystkich ludzi na ranczu. Fakt, że to właśnie ona dokona egzekucji cholernie mnie cieszy.

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Strand tells Nick the deal he made. Tells him to get his mother and go before the attack. This is when Nick goes to tell Maddie, the arguing breaks out between Troy and Maddie and she hits him with the sledgehammer. TROY IS DEAD.
The operation on the Proctor is a success, Proctor John make Alicia come along for the attack.
Things are fast and hectic in both episodes. Lola is going to stop the water from being drained in the tunnel. This is where the gang is going to sneak in. STRAND stops her. Daniel and he fight and he accidently shots Daniel in the face.
Strand hides Maddie and Nick in a locked room. The gang is attacking. Efraim gets shot dead. Lola takes Daniel into underground area and hides him and wants to go find Efraim.
When Proctor finds that his plan is not working the way that Strand said, he gets angry. STRAND is beat down and they are all in dange Proctor John tells Maddie to say goodbye to Alicia and Nick. He wants To kill both of them and she is to bear witness.
They are all taken to the too of the dam. They give their goodbyes. Nick goes and hugs Strand. What is not seen is Nick taking the detonator from Strands pocket. Nick decides he will sacrifice himself for the others. He makes Maddie and Alicia and Strand leave, to go find a boat and get away from the dam.
Lola finds Efraim dead and goes on a shooting spree towards the gang. She is shot and killed.
Another creepy Christmas scene , Maddie surrounded by Jake, Jeremiah, blood gore, Strand arrives, another cemetery scene.
Maddie and the others get away in the boat. They are not far enough. Proctor try to grab the detonator. The gang is being shot by Taqa and Crazy Dog who are up on a hill. Just went it looks like Nick will be killed, he blows the dam. Daniel arrives at the last minute and starts killing the gang. He grabs Nick.The dam is falling apart. The boat is getting sucked into the flood water and capsizes......
Maddie is shown as if drowning, she reaches out of the water and touches Travis hand. She pulls herself out of the water on a bank. All the locals are rushing to get buckets of water from the flood...a little girl says hello.....
#Confirmed Dead Troy, Lola, Efraim 

Zastanawia mnie jedno, jak rozwinie się wątek Stranda po tym jak zdradził Madison.

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« Odpowiedź #65 dnia: 14 Październik, 2017, 20:21:48 »
ciężki będzie dla mnie finał, bo Troy był moim ulubionym bohaterem obecnego sezonu  :'(

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« Odpowiedź #66 dnia: 14 Październik, 2017, 20:36:40 »
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Q&A - 3.16 - Sleigh Ride
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1. How does the episode begin? A vision of Madison on the perfect Christmas morning. Decorated house, Christmas music, and her cooking a turkey. Nick and Luciana arrive and they have a baby. But it turns out they're not there to see Madison. The house is out in the middle of nowhere, and the other thing on the property is a graveyard. It seems Nick and Luciana are there only to see Alicia's grave, and they immediately leave. Message is Madison is all alone, and the only family she has left wants nothing to do with her because of her past deeds.

2. How do Nick and Madison escape from the room where Strand lock them in? Strand comes and lets them out after Alicia shows up with Proctor John. Strand's entire plan has gone to shit, and he begs Madison to leave with Nick. Madison finally agrees, and Strand's plan is for them to put on dam uniforms and he is to escort them out of the dam, claiming they are traitors and Proctor John instructed him to execute them himself. It might have worked too, until Lola shows up and starts shooting.

3. What really happend with Daniel? Is he dead? Lola is able to hide him down in one of the underground tunnels and then goes and try to find Efrain. She does find him, but he’s dead. So she takes the gun Daniel gives her and goes out like a boss. She opens fire on the Proctors, does get a few kills, but is finally shot in the head by Proctor John. Daniel ends up dragging himself out and is a total badass even with the hole in this face. He makes it to the bridge of the dam just as Nick sets off the C4.

4. Where is Alicia? What’s going on with her and Diana? In the first episode, Diana breaks her leg when she and Alicia are attacked, and so, Alicia races back to the trading post to find a doctor. She does find a doctor, and he helps Diane. In return, the doctor, noticing Alicia has some medical training (we learn she volunteered at a hospital), asks her to stay for a while as his assistant. She agrees, and it turns out their next patient is Proctor John. He is in need of a surgery, and Alicia assists. Proctor John takes a liking to Alicia and ends up forcing her to come to the dam with him.

5. How does the episode end? Nick and Daniel are on one of the bridges of the dam as everything starts to collapse after the C4 detonates. We don't see what happens to them. Madison, Alicia and Strand try to escape before the explosion by boat, but it's too late, and they are sucked up into the whirlpool created by the flood from the explosion. Madison is the only one we see emerge from the water in the end. Walker and Crazy Dog show back up at the very end. It turns out they hung around after all and also, Crazy Dog is a hell of a sniper (probably from his military days as we learned a couple episodes back). Crazy Dog takes out a bunch of the Proctors from hundreds of yards away.
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NOTE: Troy doesn't reanimate, but I'm not sure he would because of the massive head wound. Anyways, he has a huge hole in the side of his head, and at the end, the water rushes inside the dam, and we see the water flooding the room he was left in and it covers him. So, unless he magically wakes up and somehow swims out of there, he's dead. We'll see if he's in the In Memoriam on Sunday.

The ONLY characters we know with 100% certainty survive are Madison, Walker, Crazy Dog, and Proctor John.
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BONUS: Travis is in another vision at the end. Madison is being pulled down into Jeremiah Otto's grave and she looks up and sees Travis extending his hands trying to pull her back. This is happening at the same time Madison is being pulled under the water in the flood and starts drowning.

When Lola appears and kills a bunch of Proctors, that's when Proctor John figures out that Strand had lied to him because he said he killed both Lola and Daniel. That's when the deal with Strand falls apart, which includes the protection for Madison, Alicia and Nick.

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« Odpowiedź #67 dnia: 14 Październik, 2017, 20:57:04 »
"NOTE: Troy doesn't reanimate, but I'm not sure he would because of the massive head wound. Anyways, he has a huge hole in the side of his head, and at the end, the water rushes inside the dam, and we see the water flooding the room he was left in and it covers him. So, unless he magically wakes up and somehow swims out of there, he's dead. We'll see if he's in the In Memoriam on Sunday."

jest nadzieja, że Troya nie zdejmą. Może znajdzie się miejsce pod śmietnikiem jak dla Glenna ;'))