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« Odpowiedź #90 dnia: 09 Wrzesień, 2018, 01:07:44 »
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Q&A : 4.13 - "Blackjack"
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1. How does the episode begin? It starts with the new characters, Morgan, June and Al pondering what to do next. Then, a walker approaches and after Sarah puts him down, they notice writing on the walker's face. Just like the trucker and Quinn from the last episode. Then, the woman with dreadlocks comes on the radio. Morgan recognizes the voice and gets on the radio. The woman calls Morgan by name and starts to taunt him, saying that he used to be strong and she can make him strong again. The entire situation freaks everyone out, and they decide to leave and start looking for the rest of the group.

2. What is Luciana doing? She finds an older man pinned in his car from a car wreck and tries to help him. She finally figures out that there's nothing she can do and he's dying, and so, she then asks him if he has a final request. He says he would do anything for just 1 more beer. So, she sets out to find that beer and stumbles on one of the boxes left on the side of the road, specifically the one that Jim left a beer in. She delivers the beer, and to thank Lucy, the man gives her his journals which details the locations of caches of supplies. We are led to believe this man may have been the owner of the truck that Sarah and Wendall stole. Luciana does reunite with Morgan.

3. Do we see Alicia and Charlie? They reunited with Morgan as well, but they're in the episode only briefly.

4. How does John and Strand deal with the crocodiles? What's their plan to get to the other side? John finds a car with an old camper attached, and he comes up with a plan to make the camper into a makeshift boat. At first, it seems to work, but the crocodiles ram it, and it starts to leak. John wants to keep going, but Strand finally convinces him to fire his gun to lure walkers into the water, serving as a distraction for the crocodiles so that they can swim back to shore.

5. Does anyone die? Just the old man that Luciana encounters.

6. Besides the crocodiles, is there any other dangerous scene in the episode? At the very end. The woman in dreadlocks finally catches up with the group in the truck, and she's driving Al's van. In the final moments of the episode, Morgan yells for everyone to get down, just as the woman opens fire on the truck.

Cóż...czyli tragicznego scenariusza ciąg dalszy.

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« Odpowiedź #91 dnia: 09 Wrzesień, 2018, 11:53:11 »
Nie oglądałem odcinków 10-12, ale z tego co czytam ze spoilerów to rzeczywiście nic się nie dzieje. Zacząłem sobie oglądać TeWuDe od początku, żeby przypomnieć sobie jak "kiedyś to było" i zwyczajnie porzuciłem Fear na chwilę obecną. Pewnie jak sezon 4 się skończy to nadrobię pozostałem odcinki, ale z tego co widzę niczego specjalnego nie przegapiłem.

Patrząc na te spoilery to fabuła zwyczajnie stoi w miejscu. I z tego co rozumiem to wątek huraganu jest już zamknięty?

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« Odpowiedź #92 dnia: 09 Wrzesień, 2018, 13:56:29 »
Ja też mam przestój, przy czym jeżeli fabuła nadal będzie toczyć się takim a nie innym torem to nie wiem czy nadrobię sezon. Zwyczajnie nie mam ochoty oglądać ciągłej degrengolady Fear. Wystarczy że już raz przechodziłem przez to przy TWD.

A co do huraganu to tak. Wielce hypowany motyw trwał raptem jeden odcinek. Nie za bardzo wiem jak to szerzej skomentować poza tym, że to zagranie typowo w stylu Gimple.

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« Odpowiedź #93 dnia: 09 Wrzesień, 2018, 14:01:44 »
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A co do huraganu to tak. Wielce hypowany motyw trwał raptem jeden odcinek. Nie za bardzo wiem jak to szerzej skomentować poza tym, że to zagranie typowo w stylu Gimple.


No to nieźle, bo spodziewałem się, że skoro Gompel przeforsował podzielenie grup to huragan będzie pokazany z perspektywy każdej postaci. A tak to jakieś krótkie wstawki albo jeden odcinek na ten temat.

Ostatnio zobaczyłem jakąś scenę na fb Fear TWD jak Morgan "stawiał klocka". Przez chwilę myślałem, że to jest jakiś żart czy coś, jednak potem zdałem sobie sprawę, że ta scena była w epizodzie. Chyba dobrze oddaje to tępo tego półsezonu.

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« Odpowiedź #94 dnia: 16 Wrzesień, 2018, 17:00:46 »
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Q&A - Episode 4.14 - MM54
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1. How does the episode begin? It begins with a long flashback that provides the backstory of the woman in dreadlocks AKA "The Filthy Woman." The woman's name is Martha, and she used to be an English teacher. Martha and her husband were on the road, just trying to survive the apocalypse, when they somehow hit a guardrail and crashed their car. The guardrail is impaled inside her husband, and Martha pleads for hours and hours for someone in the passing cars to stop and help him, but nobody ever does. He finally dies, and after she buries him on the side of the road, a semi stops to leave one of those care boxes. Martha snaps because nobody once stopped to help her husband, and so, she kills the female driver. From then on, she began tracking the other drivers and killing them.

2. What happens after the lady starts shooting all of them? Nobody is seriously hurt, and Wendall is able to get 1 shot off afterwards and hits the lady AKA "Martha." Gas is also leaking from the truck, which causes it to explode. The explosion in turn attracts walkers from all around, and they all flee, tugging Wendall behind them since his wheelchair was destroyed.

3. Do John and Strand appear on this episode? No.

4. Do Alicia and Charlie reunite with the rest of the group? We can't be sure, but we are led to believe that they find Strand and John at the very end.

5. Does anyone die? No, but Jim is bit.

6. Do the group have a plan against the woman in dreadlocks? No, because we don't see her again after the group flees the explosion of the truck. Instead, they end up holed inside a hospital per Morgan's suggestion to escape the walkers which has now grown into a herd. By the end of the episode, they are trapped on the roof of the hospital after it's overrun by the herd.

7. How does the episode end? It ends with everyone trapped on the roof of the hospital, and it is revealed that Jim had been bit during a struggle with a walker while making his way up to the roof. Al is also missing after she broke from the group to get the emergency generators going in order to power the elevators.

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A couple other things. First, Jim begged Morgan for help when he was attacked by that walker, but Morgan couldn't get to him. Also, Jim didn't think holing up inside that hospital was a good idea and instead, wanted to stay out in the open. After all, even with Wendall slowing them down, they were still faster than the herd, but they decided to with Morgan's plan. I think this will weigh a lot of guilt on Morgan.

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« Odpowiedź #95 dnia: 23 Wrzesień, 2018, 10:14:32 »
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Q&A: Episode 4.15 "I lose people"
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1. How does the episode begin? It opens on the rooftop of the hospital, with Morgan still pondering what to do and claiming he can't fix this. But, then, he hears Alicia on the radio and learns that they've found John and Strand. That's like a boost Morgan needed, and he then decides the way they're getting out is the way they came in -- on the elevator, while there's still some juice left in the generator.

2. What happens in the scene between Alicia, Charlie and Martha? Martha starts shooting at them, but then passes out probably due to blood loss from her gunshot wound. Alicia and Charlie don't leave her behind, however, and instead, reclaim Al's van and tie her up.

3. Do wee see John and Strand? Yes, they are rescued by Alicia and Charlie using Al's van, and they show up with the rest of the group at the hospital to help Morgan get off the roof.

4. What do the group plan to get out of the hospital? How did it go? The plan is to use the elevator to get everyone out, with the exception of Morgan who stays up on the roof to help them with a distraction in case they get trapped by walkers on the ground. It works. They get out, and Morgan throws a corpse off the roof of the building onto a car, causing the car alarm to go off. That distracts the mini-herd they encounter on the ground so they are able to escape.

5. Do they escape the Hospital? Yes. Everyone gets out initially using Morgan's plan, and then, the group all comes back with a firetruck to help Morgan get off the roof of the hospital.

6. What about Jim? What happens with him? Jim finally decides to take the high road and help the group escape when they become trapped on the ground after they rescue Morgan. He jumps to his death on a car below, which sets off a car alarm, thus distracting the herd long enough for everyone to escape.

7. How is Morgan's mental state? Does he feel guilty? Actually, he is fine at the end. He tells everyone that he told Jim about Alexandria, and to honor Jim, he would like to go back to Alexandria and take everyone with him after they find Al.

8. How does the episode end? After Martha escapes from being tied up in Al's van, we see her writing some illegible stuff on Jim's face, and after he reanimates, he becomes her new "pet."

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« Odpowiedź #96 dnia: 30 Wrzesień, 2018, 10:40:00 »
Spoilery do ostatniego odcinka 4. sezonu:

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Q&A: 4.16 "...I lose myself."
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1. How does the episode begin? It begins with Al at a parking garage trying to evade walkers. To her surprise, she finds a news van, complete with video equipment, hotwires it and heads back to the hospital to find the rest of the group.

2. What happens with Al? After going back to the hospital, Al encounters Martha. After a brief struggle, Martha is able to get the upper hand and knocks Al out. The next thing we see is Al waking up in her van surrounded by the group. Martha didn't harm her, but instead, sent Morgan a video message using the video camera Al had found.

3. What happens with Martha? The original plan is for Morgan and the rest of the group to rendezvous back at the truck stop in Mississippi and then, head on to Alexandria. But, Morgan wants to try and help Martha first. Morgan does find her and he handcuffs her in the back of a police car that he finds. They then start heading to Mississippi.

4. How does Morgan get the sharpie on his face and why? Martha fakes being sick, which in turn causes Morgan to crash the police car they are in. When Morgan regains consciousness, he sees Martha had written it on his forehead. Martha also reveals to Morgan that she had been bit, and she did it intentionally so that he would be unable to "save" her like he wanted. Morgan also finally is able to get June on the radio. They all made it to Mississippi, but now, everyone is getting sick. Morgan puts it together that Martha is responsible, and after attacking her, she finally reveals she spiked all of the water at the truck stop with antifreeze. So, he handcuffs Martha to the car to make sure she can't hurt anybody when she turns, and he starts for Mississippi on foot.

5. What happens with Walker Jim? He is finally put down by Morgan.

6. Does anyone die or get hurt? At the end, Morgan and the rest of the group return to the police car, and discover that Martha had pulled a Merle and cut her arm off to escape. But, Morgan sees her in the distance and discovers she has already turned. He puts her down and buries her.

7. How does the episode end? It ends with the group deciding to use Clayton's AKA "Polar Bear" journals to find his supply caches and continuing the good work that he had started.

8. Anything else you want to share with us about this episode? After Morgan is finally able to radio to June that they've been poisoned with antifreeze, June is able to tell Morgan that the antidote is ethanol. So, on the way to Mississippi, Morgan makes a stop and brings a truckload of Jim's brew back. "Ethanol is just a fancy name for alcohol" as Morgan puts it, and Jimbo saves the group once again.

9. Are they going to Alexandria? At first, yes, but they decide against it at the end. Morgan just wants to stay there and try to do something good. He offers to give directions to Alexandria to the rest of the group so they can go without him, but they all decide to stay with Morgan.

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« Odpowiedź #97 dnia: 30 Wrzesień, 2018, 11:06:58 »
Zapowiada się ekstremalnie bezpłciowo. Final nie będzie prowadził w żadnym kierunku i wątpie, że ktokolwiek odpali sezon 5 patrząc na to jak świetnie poprowadzili wątki w 4B

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« Odpowiedź #98 dnia: 30 Wrzesień, 2018, 13:22:06 »
Widzę, że finał taki sam jak cały sezon czyli o wszystkim i o niczym. Mega mnie irytuje gimplowski schemat w którym każdy półsezon opowiada o zupełnie innym temacie bo zaburza to ciągłość fabularną, całkowicie rozpieprza strukturę sezonu i wprowadza ogólną miałkość. Nic w efekcie nie może być należycie rozwinięte. Dotychczasową siłą Fear była całosezonowa ciągłość historii. Gimple widzę nadal nie opanował tej sztuki.

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« Odpowiedź #99 dnia: 01 Październik, 2018, 00:10:54 »
Ja to się generalnie dziwie producentom , że zezwalaja na taką samowolkę Gimplowi no i zarząd AMC, że nie widzi co się dzieje. Do tej pory nie pojumuję jakim cudem Gimple zamiast wypowiedzenia dostał awans.

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« Odpowiedź #100 dnia: 01 Październik, 2018, 19:52:19 »
Dla AMC najważniejsze są cyferki. Póki zadowalające, jest dla nich ok. Mnie zastanawia natomiast inna rzecz. Jakim cudem Gimple i jego Minionki, z serialu traktującego o antagonizmie bohaterów który na dodatek w samej swojej nazwie ma słowo "Fear", mogli zrobić opowieść o nadziei, moralności i empatii. Już pomijając same absurdy kontekstu sytuacyjnego w którym znajdują się postaci, główny motyw sezonu 4 to jakaś abstrakcja.