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« dnia: 20 Marzec, 2017, 20:03:26 »
Aż dziw, że jeszcze nie ma wątku ze spoilerami.

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« Odpowiedź #1 dnia: 20 Marzec, 2017, 20:12:05 »
Ciekawe czy odcinek będzie trochę dłuższy, bo szykują się co najmniej trzy wątki - wyprawa do Oceanside, Sasha w Neganowie, Maggie i Gregory w Hilltop. A na koniec jeszcze Dwight i Rosita w Alexandrii.

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« Odpowiedź #2 dnia: 20 Marzec, 2017, 20:39:36 »
O cholera jasna, Gregory z tym nożem ???
Znaczy Maggie tak czy inaczej sobie poradzi, no bo pff, ona nie da rady?  :mag:
Nie spodziewałam się, że Greg byłby w stanie posunąć się nawet do samego myślenia o zabiciu jej, a co dopiero do próby. Podejrzewam, że albo nagle zmięknie mu serce i się rozmyśli, albo Maggie włączy tryb mistrza kung-fu, jujitsu i innych trudnych słów, a on padnie jak długi.

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« Odpowiedź #3 dnia: 20 Marzec, 2017, 21:02:57 »
Patrząc na promo to jakoś nie mogę się oprzeć wrażeniu że Eugene uratuje życie Neganowi i doprowadzi do schwytania Sashy. 

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« Odpowiedź #4 dnia: 20 Marzec, 2017, 21:52:14 »

7.15

7.15 has several Sasha-Negan scenes after she is captured by The Saviours at the end of episode 14.

She is held by Negan and looks like she is following many, but not all, of the comic Holly story.

In 15, she asks for water and a Saviour wants to exchange for water for sex.

Sasha isn't having it and ends up punching the guy and breaking his nose.

Negan comes across him and asks him what he was doing in there with Sasha. He puts two and two together and just kills the guy with a knife through the neck.

So this part of the comic involving David and Holly is going to play out a little differently but also a little the same.

Negan goes to talk to Sasha and offers her a knife plus four choices -

1 She can try to kill him with it, 2 or she can slit her wrists with the knife, or 3 she can sit/do nothing and wait for the Saviour to turn and eat her face. Or, 4vshe can use the knife to make sure her water-for-sex guy doesn't turn AND join the Saviours herself.

Negan says he respects her "giant ass balls" and wants her to help him run The Sanctuary.

Then we see Eugene visit Sasha in her cell. She asks him what The Saviours did to him and he tells her they are keeping him safe. He had been too scared to refuse Negan's offer and admits his cowardice about it.

Eugene tries to convince Sasha to do the same as him, but she tells him to "Go!"



After scenes about Tara at Oceanside, (I'll post that, and Hilltop later)

(Some of the Eugene bits are parts of the re-edits I said before. I don't think Eugene ultimately will betray Rick's group, but think the show is making it look more like he might, to fool fans.)

Negan goes back to talk to Sasha about her choices and it looks like she is going to accept his offer.

Negan knows Rick and the others are up to something. Sasha will be needed to help him fight them all.

Eugene talks to Sasha though the cell door again and tells her that she's made a good decision, but she has changed her mind again She says I was wrong. I can't. I won't.

Sasha wants Eugene to get her a knife, gun or a razor blade. She thinks she has to die. That way Negan won't be able to use her to hurt them all- Rick and those fighting with him.

Eugene says he will consider it and she thanks him.

Later after more Tara and Oceanside)

Eugene goes back to Sasha and has agreed to grant her wish after considering it carefully.

He just happens to have that poison pill handy (he made for the Wives in 7.11, remember?)instead of the other weapons she had asked for earlier.

The news of the poison devastates her. She obviously had a plan to kill Negan with the knife, but Eugene believed that she wanted to kill herself.

He tells her "For the record, I don't want you to go, but it sounds to me like you happen to be already gone."


Episode ends at the ASZ with Rosita, Dwight there with her. Daryl wants to kill him, but Dwight says he wants to help them win against Negan and The Saviours.

Final line- Rick pulls out his gun, points it at Dwight's head and says "Get on your knees."

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« Odpowiedź #5 dnia: 20 Marzec, 2017, 23:32:21 »
Najbardziej ciekawi mnie, co się wydarzy w Oceanside i czy w tym sezonie zobaczymy upadek Gregory'ego.
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« Ostatnia zmiana: 20 Marzec, 2017, 23:35:03 wysłana przez nimphaea »

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« Odpowiedź #6 dnia: 21 Marzec, 2017, 13:32:26 »
Od początku Grzesiu działał Mi na nerwy , Mam nadzieję że w końcu dojdzie do Niego że nie nadaje się na Przywódcę .
Rychu i Blondyna


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« Odpowiedź #7 dnia: 21 Marzec, 2017, 15:26:28 »
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Nie spodziewałam się, że Greg byłby w stanie posunąć się nawet do samego myślenia o zabiciu jej, a co dopiero do próby. Podejrzewam, że albo nagle zmięknie mu serce i się rozmyśli, albo Maggie włączy tryb mistrza kung-fu, jujitsu i innych trudnych słów, a on padnie jak długi.

Szczerze wątpię aby nawet podjął próbę. Zapewne dostaniemy niepokojącą muzykę i Gregory'ego, który będzie patrzył się na Maggie i zbliżał lekko w jej stronę, na końcu ona odwróci się, spojrzy na niego i spyta się 'Po co Ci ten nóż?" a On popatrzy i powie coś w stylu 'to? aa, a tak jakoś sobie wyjąłem jakby jakiś szwend czy coś wyskoczył, hehe', schowa i pójdzie.




Ewentualnie pomoże nim grzebać w ziemi.

I tak chyba wątek Oceanside będzie zapewne najciekawszym w tym odcinku. Też jestem ciekaw co tam się stanie. No i na końcu Dłajti z Rositką w Alexandrii.


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« Odpowiedź #8 dnia: 21 Marzec, 2017, 21:17:44 »
Mam nadzieję, że w przyszłości wątek Meg vs Gregory / Rick vs Negan zostanie potraktowany łagodnie, zgodnie z prawidłami komiksowymi, bo ta jedna sprawa, sytuacja rozwiązania konfliktów opowiada dużo o bohaterach, ich podejściu do poczucia wymierzania sprawiedliwości i w ogóle "character development".  :yay:

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« Odpowiedź #9 dnia: 22 Marzec, 2017, 13:33:14 »
Huge thanks goes out to our lovely source!!

Q&A Episode 7.15 "Something They Need"

What happens with the group's encounter at Oceanside?

Using some of the explosives Rick and Co. found on the highway, they are able to corral everyone at Oceanside at one place. Except for Natania and Cyndie. Tara confronts them at gunpoint in their house. Rick tells them they are there to take their guns to fight the Saviors, but they also want them to join them in the fight. They certainly don't want to hurt them. In the end, it seems like most of them want to join Rick, but Natania said no way. Since she's the leader, they bow down and give Rick their weapons (ALL of them).

How does the conversation between Rick and Natania go?

 It goes completely nowhere. Natania is finally able to overpower Tara and has a gun pointed to her head. Rick tells Natania that if she kills Tara then she'll die too, but she doesn't care. She'd rather die than to send her people into a battle they can't win. Enid is the one who finally steps up and hits Natania in the head with a rock to level the playing field, but Natania still doesn't bend.

Do Tara and Cyndie talk? Does Cyndie feel betrayed?

At first, but by the end of the episode, Cyndie forgives her. She even thanks Tara for what she's doing (trying to make the world be run by good people instead of bullies like the Saviors).

In the sneak peek we see Gregory looking at his knife with Maggie. Does he consider attacking her? What happens?

Yes, that little slime ball! Maggie asks Gregory to keep watch for walkers while she's planting some vegetables, and the asshole actually considers killing her right there. Shortly after, a walker attacks Gregory. It's obvious he has never killed a walker before. He screams for Maggie like a little girl and she has to save his ass.

What does Negan do when Sasha attacks the Sanctuary?

He locks her in the cell, but it's not quite as bad as Daryl. She still has her clothes, and she's given good food and bedding (oh, and no Easy Street either.) When Negan finally shows up, he basically offers to make her one of his top lieutenants (in time of course) because of her "beachball lady nuts"

After Sasha is taken prisoner, does a Savior try to attack her in her cell? What happens?

Yes, the Savior David comes into her cell and tries to rape her, but Negan walks in on him. In return, David gets a knife through the neck.

How does Eugene feel about Sasha being a prisoner?

He's a little distraught, but ultimately encourages her to join Negan.

What request does Sasha make to Eugene? Why?

 She begs Eugene to give her something "to end it." She knows full well Negan's going to use her to hurt her friends, and she can't live with that. Eugene obliges.

She might have been asking for a weapon so she could actually take out Negan. When Eugene slips the suicide pills under the cell door, she seems surprised and upset.   

How does the episode end?

 It ends with Rick and Co. returning from Oceanside to be greeted by Rosita at the gate. She says they have a visitor, and that's when she leads Rick to Dwight who says he can help. Daryl tries to attack Dwight, but Rosita stops him and says he really wants to help. Then Rick asks if that's true. Dwight says "Yes," and then Rick pulls his gun and orders Dwight to his knees. Fade to black.

Bonus:

* Negan hears from "a little birdie" that Rick is making plans and so he prepares to head to Alexandria. Gregory gets ready to go to the Sanctuary in this episode, but doesn't leave yet so Negan didn't hear it from him.

* Good scene with a mini-herd of some cool looking walkers at Oceanside. Rick and Co have to take them all out.

* Eugene tells Sasha the reason why he has joined Negan is because when he was in that Lucille line-up  it was the most scared he's been in his entire life. Then it was "rinse and repeat" when it happened to Glenn. He can't feel that way again, and by being at the Sanctuary that ensures he never will.

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« Odpowiedź #10 dnia: 22 Marzec, 2017, 14:52:45 »
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* Eugene tells Sasha the reason why he has joined Negan is because when he was in that Lucille line-up  it was the most scared he's been in his entire life. Then it was "rinse and repeat" when it happened to Glenn. He can't feel that way again, and by being at the Sanctuary that ensures he never will.

Taki pewny siebie, a jak dostanie w kulkę od strony przeciwnej to się zdziwi. Wiem, że to raczej niemożliwe ale... Proszę. Abraham przewraca się w grobie. A dopiero co go pochwalił...

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 It ends with Rick and Co. returning from Oceanside to be greeted by Rosita at the gate. She says they have a visitor, and that's when she leads Rick to Dwight who says he can help. Daryl tries to attack Dwight, but Rosita stops him and says he really wants to help. Then Rick asks if that's true. Dwight says "Yes," and then Rick pulls his gun and orders Dwight to his knees. Fade to black.

Wreszcie. Na to czekałem. Dwight, oficjalnie ''wróciłeś'' na prawidłowy tor. Gratuluję.
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